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Jeff Mills – Fireside Chat, Part 3 of 3

Thursday, May 20th, 2010

Here is part 3 of our radio transcription of an interview Jeff Mills gave to RBMA. You can check out parts 1 and 2 here. You can listen to the radio show in full here or download it here. The accompanying tracklist is as follows:

Jeff Mills – Landscape (Utopian Dream) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Blue Print – Tresor
Underground Resistance – Eye of the Storm – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Predator – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Base Camp Alpha 808 – UR
Underground Resistance – Final Frontier – Underground Resistance
X-101 – G-Force – Tresor
X-102 – Ground Zero (The Planet) – Tresor
X-102 – The Rings Of Saturn – Underground Resistance
Jeff Mills – Perfecture (Somewhere Around Now) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – The Bells – Axis
Jeff Mills – Transformation B (Rotwang’s Revenge) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Robot Replica – Tresor

Click the vinyl sticker pictures to hear the tracks.

Life in the Jeff-set

We started with Saturn, we chose it mainly because of the physical aspects of the planet, in that it resembled a record. We were interested in using very small things to relay certain messages so the label design was used as the main part of the explanation of the release and the music would explain or support it – in the grooves. So the Rings of Saturn was a perfect release. The rings, like a tree when you cut it open and look a the rings of time it tells the history of the tree itself. We looked at the planet as the rings telling the history of it. Months and months of research about the planet, and then we began production in the summer of 1992. From X-101 we learned that each of us have a very unique way of producing music. We designated who would do what for that particular release. Rob didn’t have that much experience at the time. He had set up a small studio in the corner he had very small pieces of equipment but very interesting sounds. So we designated that he produce very simple, very minimal type of tracks. Mike would produce more orchestrated strings because he could player better than both of us. And my job would be to have the more experimental parts. We would put all these things together and that would be the album. X-102 would be something we always wanted to finish we never thought that we ever finished that release. So that brings us to the year 2009 so we decided to go back and revisit it, update the album and create a performance.

Ring ding

I got an offer to move to New York as a resident DJ at a couple of clubs. Part of the deal of my moving to New York was that I would have to have an office so that I could run the label from there. When I moved and realized that Mike did not want to bring UR to New York, I had all these resources – and office, telephone, all these free things that this club had given me. With all this I should start a label myself! After a few months of thinking about it and thinking about the type of music I would like to do I came up with the idea of Axis. Until then the music was very song structured so you would have the introduction and bridge, even though they were instrumentals you got the idea that if someone was to sing on top of these songs that would be OK, they were structured in that way. So I thought that being a DJ it would be great to produce music that was more simplified so that you could manipulate it more. By limiting how layered the tracks would be – it would be better. Back then as DJs we used to really seek out dub versions and instrumental versions so that we could extend and create our own songs. I thought that producing in this way would set a tone with DJs. It was always my intention to make a label where the music was more simple, easy for the DJ to play and program. I asked Rob who was recording on his own label in Detroit, if he would do the first recording on the label jointly with me. It was called Tranquilizer, it was so different it did not take off so well. The second release which was Inner Sanctum by Rob only, did a little bit better as it was more danceable. By the third release which was Step To Enchantment, the Mecca EP, things began to take off, at that time.

Mecca steps

The label Purpose Maker was created soon after I had moved to Chicago from New York. I had no friends, I was basically alone, so I had plenty of time to produce a lot of music. I thought I can produce so much that it would be interesting to produce a case of records just for me. So records that were even mastered, pressed. But no one had any copies, I had all the copies. I had begun to make music just for me to play. Things like The Bells, Alarms, they were just for me. I had begun to play them as I was making this box, as I was playing them DJs were asking what these songs were. I got the indication that The Bells was something people really responded to and DJs wanted to have. So I said ok. Maybe I should make it available to release these tracks. That’s how I started the label Purpose Maker. Once I got he notion the DJs understood exactly what the music was for, and began to hear other producers and DJs try to emulate it. I thought the task is done, now I can move on to the next.

The bells, the bells!

Metropolis is an epic film by Fritz Lang that was produced in 1929, it’s become on of the most popular science fiction films of our time. There were many years that brought me to the point of working on that project. There were many discussions about how electronic music could play a role in cinema, where it might serve cinema the best and vice versa – what type of films it might work the best for. After so many discussions with so many people I thought that someone should do something, so I’ll try to produce an entire soundtrack for an entire film! Just to see what happens, even if it doesn’t turn out too well at least the news that I tried to do something, if that news got round to other producers, maybe it would give them some indication that somebody’s trying to do something to broaden and expand electronic music into different areas. So without permission from the film company I just went and bought a VHS tape of Metropolis, took notes, divided it into 12 different parts and produced music for each section. Many different versions for each section and chose one that would work. I went to an editing studio, taking the VHS tape and put the music that I produced to this tape. Then I began to search and find out who might have a contact to the film company in Munich that maybe IU could show this film to them of what I did and maybe that they would allow me to show it to other people. I did that, being lucky enough find a contact through Tresor Records in Berlin who knew someone who knew someone, who knew someone that worked at Transit Films in Munich. Luckily someone in that office was young enough, maybe an intern or something to know who I was as a DJ. They decided to say ok, they would give me rights to show the film for academic reasons, just for the example of putting electronic music to this film, we could have one of rights to show the film. That’s how the project came. That’s how I did it.

Tresor – Official Site

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Jeff Mills – Fireside Chat, Part 2 of 3

Thursday, April 22nd, 2010

Apologies for the rather long wait for part 2 of this short series, it won’t be so long until part 3 we promise. There’s not much intro needed to (cliché as it is) one of the godfathers of techno music. Incase you do, check out the informative intro in part 1. In this transcript (part 2 of 3) of a recent interview he has given to the Red Bull Music Academy Radio. Listen to the radio show in full here or download it here. The accompanying tracklist is as follows:

Jeff Mills – Landscape (Utopian Dream) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Blue Print – Tresor
Underground Resistance – Eye of the Storm – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Predator – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Base Camp Alpha 808 – UR
Underground Resistance – Final Frontier – Underground Resistance
X-101 – G-Force – Tresor
X-102 – Ground Zero (The Planet) – Tresor
X-102 – The Rings Of Saturn – Underground Resistance
Jeff Mills – Perfecture (Somewhere Around Now) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – The Bells – Axis
Jeff Mills – Transformation B (Rotwang’s Revenge) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Robot Replica – Tresor

His Jeffness

His Jeffness


Other than my trip to Berlin to perform with Final Cut we did not have too much information as to what Europe was like. We could only hear what Kevin, Derrick and Juan were saying about what was happening in the UK, Belgium and places like that. It was the time when the invention of the fax machine had just come out, we thought that that would be an interesting way to communicate with people. So we developed a way of communicating through the fax machine by distorting letters and images. We knew early on that there was a lot of potential for a certain type of fan base so we got into merchandising and started making t-shirts. We treated that at the same level as the music – we started exploring.

It wasn’t until maybe about a year after that we had the opportunity to go to Europe together as a unit. So for a year we were working blindly, we were working off of what we imagined Europe would be like. We thought that America would be the same as Europe. We were working with Urb magazine on the West coast and Billboard magazine in New York. It wasn’t until we got a call from a guy whom neither of us really knew, we knew of him, we knew about him. Joey Beltram called us and introduced himself. He said he had just got back from Belgium and had played one of our records and it was doing really good, he had played it to a crowd of thirty thousand people and we should make more things like that. We were like, “Who the hell is Joey Beltram?”, but “OK” so we took his advice, make more things in that direction and see what happens.

Military attire in early Underground Resistance days

Military attire in early Underground Resistance days


We found a medium of attire, which happened kind of naturally. I was dressing that way anyway at the time, some of it comes from Final Cut which was really in that direction, our attire was really more military. Some if it comes from Mike ['Mad' Mike Banks], and the job that he used to have. He used to put people out of their houses, he was part of a team of guys that used to go to a house when someone didn’t pay their bills and he would physically move the people out. So he would have to dress in that way, he wasn’t a police officer, but very close to it. He had that type of experience so we mixed it together. We were both very much into hip hop, Public Enemy and all those other things so we kind of adopted that. We got a couple of offers to perform in New York at the Limelight and a couple of other places. We thought that maybe it would be interesting to hide our faces, so that people had no idea. They wouldn’t look at us as if we were a group of black guys and the music would stand out more than what we look like. It’s America so it’s very big on pop culture, it’s very easy to conclude what we are by what we look like – this is just a country that really excels in that. We thought that by taking that away we would put more emphasis on the sound and what the music is.

Hood, Mills, Banks


Robert Hood came in, we hired him as an assistant to work within the label at administration. He was a rapper, he was a hip hop rapper at the time. So I think we somewhat influenced him when he first came, he was really into rap. We were like, “That’s fine. But your message must be positive!” We’re not into that certain type of rap. So we brought him in and he started to work for us. We set him up with his own setup to produce music. We taught and showed him how to record it how to program it. He began to work on projects with us (with Mike and I) and then eventually started his own label called Hardwax. We worked with him a little bit to get that label started and then he took it on himself. In a week we could produce maybe twelve to twenty tracks and so we decide to do something different, something we don’t remember or didn’t hear coming from Detroit at that time. Things that we more experimental. So we decided to designate so much time to producing compositions in that way, exploring and using the equipment and machines in different ways. We decided on a name of the project as X for experimental. We would treat it somewhat like a college report, your instructor would give you a subject and you would have to report so we adopted this 101, 102, 103 as if it were a paper. So the first project was X-101, there wasn’t really any concept we just wanted to see if Mike, Rob and I could work together in this way – if we were all on the same page. It went really well so we decided to create X-102. This time we had the idea that maybe this release should really be about something connected to all people, not just certain cultures. We chose the Rings of Saturn.

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Axis Records – Official Site

Underground Resistance – Official Website

Jeff Mills – Fireside Chat, Part 1 of 3

Wednesday, March 10th, 2010

Jeff Mills is undoubtedly one of the founding fathers of techno music. In this transcript (Part 1 of 3) of a recent interview he has given to the Red Bull Music Academy Radio, you can read all about him starting out on Detroit radio in the mid-80′s, meeting Parliament bassist “Mad” Mike Banks, the evolution of techno, Underground Resistance, traveling for the first time to Europe, Axis, rescoring Fritz Lang’s Metropolis, The Rings of Saturn and treading that careful line between dance-music and high art. Click the record label art to get an idea of the tracks Mills is talking about with links to relevant Youtube videos. Listen to the radio show in full here or download it here. The accompanying tracklist is as follows:

Jeff Mills – Landscape (Utopian Dream) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Blue Print – Tresor
Underground Resistance – Eye of the Storm – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Predator – Underground Resistance
Underground Resistance – Base Camp Alpha 808 – UR
Underground Resistance – Final Frontier – Underground Resistance
X-101 – G-Force – Tresor
X-102 – Ground Zero (The Planet) – Tresor
X-102 – The Rings Of Saturn – Underground Resistance
Jeff Mills – Perfecture (Somewhere Around Now) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – The Bells – Axis
Jeff Mills – Transformation B (Rotwang’s Revenge) – Tresor
Jeff Mills – Robot Replica – Tresor

The Wizard


My name is Jeff Mills I originate from Detroit, I live in Chicago now, my main profession is to produce music and also to DJ. I try to explore as many different things as I can on behalf of electronic music. I was a street DJ doing residencies at many clubs and happened to be in one club during a live “simulcast” I think it was back in 1982 or ’83. It went so well that I was asked if I could come to the station to do an audition which I did and luckily everything went well so I was offered a job to do a radio show. I assumed the name The Wizard and curated a radio show for about 10 years. At that time the hip hop culture had really moved into the urban centres of the country in America. So much so that it was really dominating the clubs. The clubs that had the DJs that were remnants left over from the disco era and the funk era, these DJs were occupying all the dance clubs in Detroit but when hip hop came, young DJs like myself were somehow replacing those DJs that had been there for years.

Cooky batter


You had to be very fast, you had to be technically really advanced, you had to learn the tricks that were happening from DJs from other parts of the country like New York or LA. I was lucky enough to have the time to really master these things and when the radio came it just broadened the idea of being a DJ that was very quick and could transform and do all those kind of things, to manipulate the music to the point that you create another version. I was one of those kids that did that. We were just beginning to start to get the very early releases from Def Jam, Cooky Puss, early Schoolly D things. So I was mixing that with funk, with Chaka Khan, Billy Ocean, I remember having to mix with Millie Vanilli, mixing all these things together with rock and industrial with anything I could get my hands on that was really happening in the street.

I was a DJ for many years before I went to radio, I had done residencies every day of the week at three or four clubs. At the time I was so busy as what we used to call a ‘street DJ’. I really didn’t have an off day. I have always had this skill of programming of being able to cue records very quickly and smoothly, to manipulate three turntables and tape machines were things I learned very early. Now I still have the ability to do those things but just the style of music really dictates how I approach it. As music over the years has gotten more minimal and faster in tempo and almost to the point where you are dealing with individual tracks like you would in a recording studio, so has the technique that you apply in order to program it for people. Three and four turntables has become a way of dealing with that. Not so much reorganising compositions, but using frequencies so you hide sounds within the track by manipulating the EQ and layering, and things like that.

Now That's Funky


Someone from the radio station I worked at, she said she knew a young guy who was in the studio and wanted to make a hip hop record and if I could go by to the studio and help him. As a favour to her, I did. I went by the studio and it was Anthony Srock and he was a big fan of Run DMC and the Beastie Boys and he wanted to make something in that direction. I said, ok, and we started working together. I wasn’t in the group I was just helping them at the time but what happened was that I was doing so much production I should have some interest in what we are doing here. We became good friends as a result of working in the studio and then we eventually decided let’s just get together and make more music like this and so the band Final Cut was put together. We produced the album Deep In 2 The Cut and I didn’t have much pieces of equipment like keyboards and things like that. The only person I knew with a lot of keyboards was Mike Banks. He was in a band where two bands had merged together and had merged their equipment together as well. So they had lots and lots of keyboards and those type of things. So I used to call them up and ask them if I could borrow certain keyboards to produce certain things for this album that we were working on. So he would come over to my apartment and bring the keyboards, would listen to the music that we were producing and thought it was very interesting. The album came out and we went to Berlin for a performance, it was ok. But I realised this kind of music, this kind of sound is not something I could really grasp onto. I left the group Final Cut, Tony Srock had wanted to take it in a less danceable more gothic kind of way. I wanted to stick to dance music so I left the group.

Eye Of The Storm


Somewhere around that time Mike’s band had left to go to LA, they had disbanded as well. Mike and I had kept in contact so we began talking about the idea of getting together, merging our studios together. He had already thought of the name Underground Resistance but he didn’t do anything with it. He registered the name, asked me if I thought it was great, I said yeah let’s do it. And that’s how we started. I was in college – in school and he worked during the day so we could only record at night. So we would record literally from 8 o’clock at night until 7:30 in the morning. We had so much equipment that we could produce multiple tracks at the same time. We had so many tape machines and multitrack machines and so many keyboard setups. Our studio was in the basement of Mike’s mothers place so we had taken the entire basement and set up small work-stations. We would be working on Sonic EP in that corner, and here would be Yolanda, something here, something else here… That’s one of the ways we would produce so much music at the same time.

Yolanda - Your Time Is Up


I had lots of experience with editing in cutting tape. He had lots of experience in playing keyboards, MIDI and all those things. We just merged. I had brought some compositions from some of the things I had produced and he had brought some older works and we merged those two together, and from there comes the diversity of the tracks when we first started. There were things like Waveform EP which were very dark that comes probably from the Final Cut direction. And there were things like Yolanda that came from some of the things he was doing with his band before we got together. So we could produce lots of different types of things from very early on. We knew that we could produce in multiple directions. We just worked endlessly, once we had finished with something we would start on something immediately. We would never stop really.

More to come in Parts 2 and 3. From that Waveform EP…

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Axis Records – Official Site

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